{"id":2312,"date":"2016-04-25T21:00:29","date_gmt":"2016-04-26T01:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/?p=2312"},"modified":"2018-04-15T10:02:45","modified_gmt":"2018-04-15T14:02:45","slug":"student-loans-debt-bankruptcy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/student-loans-debt-bankruptcy\/","title":{"rendered":"STUDENT LOANS DEBT: WILL BANKRUPTCY ELIMINATE IT IF YOU ARE NOT THE STUDENT?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-2316 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt.jpg\" alt=\"student loans, student loan, student loan debt, ira smith trustee, amazon.ca, starting over starting now, licensed insolvency trustee, bankruptcy, bankruptcy alternatives, credit counselling, consumer proposals, debt consolidation, Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, BIA, student loans, debt, debts, personal bankruptcy, declare personal bankruptcy, student debt, student debt bankruptcy, Bankruptcy Reform Act, Bankruptcy Code, Code, toronto bankruptcy, vaughan bankruptcy, bankruptcy toronto, bankruptcy vaughan, consumer proposal toronto, consumer proposal vaughan, vaughan consumer proposal, toronto consumer proposal, personal bankruptcy vaughan, personal bankruptcy toronto, toronto personal bankruptcy, vaughan personal bankruptcy, ccaa, corporate bankruptcy; \" width=\"3000\" height=\"3000\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/student-loan-debt-1200x1200-cropped.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2 id='an-interesting-american-case-about-student-loans-debt'  id=\"boomdevs_1\">An interesting American case about student loans debt<\/h2>\n<p>Student loans debt is nearly impossible to get rid of in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/pay-bankruptcy-fee-online-credit-card\/\">bankruptcy<\/a>. A case winding its way through the US court system has piqued our intellectual interest. \u00a0A father, who is a discharged bankrupt, is taking the lender who HE borrowed funds from for his child\u2019s education to Court. \u00a0The lender is continuing to pursue collection efforts against the father on the basis that the provisions of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bankruptcy_Reform_Act_of_1978\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1978<\/a>, as amended, codified in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Title_11_of_the_United_States_Code\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Title 11 of the United States Code<\/a> and commonly called the &#8220;Bankruptcy Code&#8221; (&#8220;Code&#8221;), does not release the father from what is in reality student loans debt. \u00a0The father is taking the lender to Court for a ruling that by virtue of his discharge, he is released from that debt like all his other debts. \u00a0It has raised the question whether the same student loans debt rules should apply in that case.<\/p>\n<h2 id='the-canadian-perspective'  id=\"boomdevs_2\">The Canadian perspective<\/h2>\n<p>We are not qualified to express any opinion on the US legal case before the US Court, but we are qualified to discuss the issue from the Canadian perspective. \u00a0We started thinking whether this same situation could arise in Canada for student loans.<\/p>\n<p>Last week we discussed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/student-debt-bankruptcy-avoid-bankruptcy\/\">student debt bankruptcy<\/a> from the perspective of the student. Previously, we have written blogs and created a vlog about student loan debt, including:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/average-student-loan-debt\/\">#VIDEO: DREAM CRUSHING AVERAGE STUDENT LOAN DEBT: REASONS WHY WE PITY YOU#<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/canadian-parents-paying-student-loans\/\">CANADIAN PARENTS PAYING STUDENT LOANS<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/parents-paying-student-loans-should-you-borrow-for-your-childs-post-secondary-education\/\">PARENTS PAYING STUDENT LOANS: SHOULD YOU BORROW FOR YOUR CHILD\u2019S POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/canada-student-loan-repayment-can-cant-repay\/\">CANADA STUDENT LOAN REPAYMENT: WHAT CAN YOU DO IF YOU CAN\u2019T REPAY?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So this week, we\u2019re discussing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/average-student-loan-debt\/\">student loan debt<\/a> and bankruptcy from a very different and interesting angle. Could a Canadian lender take the position against a Canadian parent borrower who on the loan application described the purpose of the loans for the funding of his or her child\u2019s Canadian post-secondary education, that the loans qualify as student loans under the applicable Canadian statutes, including, the <a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/B-3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act<\/em><\/a> (Canada) (BIA). \u00a0Stated otherwise, are such loans the same as student loans under Canadian law and can <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services.html\">bankruptcy<\/a> cut such loans if you\u2019re not the student?<\/p>\n<h2 id='are-student-loans-necessary'  id=\"boomdevs_3\">Are\u00a0student loans necessary?<\/h2>\n<p>Many young Canadians need <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/blog\/student-loan-debt-does-it-affect-the-economy\/\">student loans<\/a> to get a post-secondary education. To qualify as Canadian student loan debt, the loans must be issued under a specific Canadian student loan statute: \u00a0the (i) <a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/S-23\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Canada Student Loans Act<\/em><\/a>; (ii) <a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/S-22.7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Canada Student Financial Assistance Ac<\/em><\/a><em>t<\/em>; (iii) \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/A-11.9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Apprentice Loans Act<\/em><\/a>; or (iv) any enactment of a province that provides for loans or guarantees of loans to students.<\/p>\n<p>All students need financial help to be full-time university students. \u00a0The only real places that such assistance can come from is either the parents, if they are willing and able to do so, student loans, or both. \u00a0Many Canadian parents pay a hefty part of students\u2019 tuition fees, even if it means sacrificing their financial stability, to help their children avoid a post-graduation life burdened by tens of thousands of dollars of student debt. \u00a0Others may wish to, but they cannot afford to do so.<\/p>\n<p>So are\u00a0student loans and the resultant debt necessary? \u00a0In most cases, yes.<\/p>\n<h2 id='can-a-parent-co-sign-for-or-guarantee-their-child-s-student-loans'  id=\"boomdevs_4\">Can a parent co-sign for or guarantee their child\u2019s student loans?<\/h2>\n<p>The short answer is no. \u00a0As I have already stated, to qualify as a student loan, the loan has to be made under the provisions of one of the Federal loan statutes mentioned above, or any such similar Provincial legislation. \u00a0Nowhere in those student loans statutes is there a place for either a guarantor or cosigner. \u00a0In fact, the Federal statutes all have similar language stating that upon the death of the borrower, the Federal government will repay the outstanding part of the loan. \u00a0In addition to there not being any sections that allow for a guarantor or cosigner, the specific section dealing with the death of the borrower does not limit the government\u2019s guarantee by using words like \u201c&#8230;.and if the lender is unable to collect in full from any guarantor or cosigner\u201d. \u00a0The reason is simple, student loans cannot be guaranteed or otherwise borrowed by anyone other than the student.<\/p>\n<h2 id='will-bankruptcy-eliminate-student-loans-debt'  id=\"boomdevs_5\">Will bankruptcy eliminate student loans debt?<\/h2>\n<p>Student loans are nearly impossible to get rid of in <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_personal.html\">bankruptcy<\/a>. Section 178(1) of the BIA states:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u201c(g) any debt or obligation in respect of a loan made under the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/S-23\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Canada Student Loans Act<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/S-22.7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Canada Student Financial Assistance Act<\/a> or any enactment of a province that provides for loans or guarantees of loans to students where the date of bankruptcy of the bankrupt occurred:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">(i) before the date on which the bankrupt ceased to be a full- or part-time student, as the case may be, under the applicable Act or enactment, or<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">(ii) within seven years after the date on which the bankrupt ceased to be a full- or part-time student;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">(g.1) any debt or obligation in respect of a loan made under the <a href=\"http:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/A-11.9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apprentice Loans Act<\/a> where the date of bankruptcy of the bankrupt occurred<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">(i) before the date on which the bankrupt ceased, under that Act, to be an eligible apprentice within the meaning of that Act, or<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">(ii) within seven years after the date on which the bankrupt ceased to be an eligible apprentice;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So if you\u2019re a student, bankruptcy will only end student loans if you&#8217;ve ceased to be a full or part-time student for more than seven years and either <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_the-bankruptcy-process.html\">declare personal bankruptcy<\/a> or make a debt proposal to your creditors, most likely through a <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_consumer-proposal.html\">consumer proposal<\/a>.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>The only other option is to attempt to seek from the Court relief because of undue hardship, but this is very difficult, if not impossible.<\/p>\n<h2 id='what-is-required-to-meet-the-burden-of-undue-hardship'  id=\"boomdevs_6\">What is required to meet the burden of undue hardship?<\/h2>\n<p>If the Court is satisfied that you meet the two-pronged test, you\u2019ll be discharged from your student loans obligations in bankruptcy only if the :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>acted in good faith in connection with your obligation to repay your student loan debt; <strong><u>and <\/u><\/strong>(emphasis added)<\/li>\n<li>have experienced, and will continue to experience, financial difficulty that will prevent you from repaying this debt<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It\u2019s then up to the <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_personal-bankruptcy.html\">bankruptcy<\/a> court to decide whether they forgive your loans, either in full or in part. One of the difficulties in trying to prove undue hardship is that there is no clear definition for what makes up hardship; each bankruptcy court across Canada may use a slightly different interpretation. The only thing that\u2019s clear is that you must prove that having to continue to pay the student loans after <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/faq.html\">bankruptcy<\/a> would be a financial hardship for you. \u00a0If you try this route, the Court will look at ALL of your income and expenses.<\/p>\n<p>The Court may decide you are not trying hard enough, or, may look at things like your small car you use to get to work, which you purchased used (instead of taking public transit), your cell phone and your internet expenses, and decide that these are luxuries you do not need. \u00a0If you are a smoker, the Court may very well decide that if you were not addicted to tobacco, you could start to repay some part of your student loans.<\/p>\n<p>If you think my examples are picayune or\u00a0silly, just look up the case of<a href=\"http:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/on\/onsc\/doc\/2009\/2009canlii31606\/2009canlii31606.html?autocompleteStr=Re%3A%20%20Fourni&amp;autocompletePos=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <em>Fournier (Re)<\/em>, 2009 CanLII 31606 (ON SC).<\/a><\/p>\n<h2 id='will-bankruptcy-eliminate-student-loan-debt-if-you-are-not-the-student'  id=\"boomdevs_7\">Will bankruptcy eliminate student loan debt if you are not the student?<\/h2>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know what the eventual disposition of the US case which I mentioned at the beginning of this blog will be, but based on all the above, in my view in the Canadian context, a parent, relative or friend cannot guarantee, cosign or borrow for a loan that qualifies as a Canadian student loan. \u00a0If you borrow to fund your child\u2019s education, then you are borrowing under an ordinary commercial transaction and the applicable student loan sections of the BIA do not apply.<\/p>\n<p>So if you have borrowed for this purpose, only the normal provisions of the BIA apply, and you will get a discharge from that and your other debts upon your discharge from bankruptcy. \u00a0However, if you pledged any of your assets in support of such borrowings, such as your home, the lender does have the right to enforce its security against such assets if you cannot repay, whether you are bankrupt or not.<\/p>\n<h2 id='what-should-you-do-if-you-have-too-much-debt'  id=\"boomdevs_8\">What should you do if you have too much debt?<\/h2>\n<p>If you\u2019re drowning because of your finances, we know we can help you. Although many people believe that <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services.html\">bankruptcy<\/a> is the only way of out serious debt, that\u2019s not always the case. <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/index.html\">Ira Smith Trustee &amp; Receiver Inc.<\/a>can discuss other <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_bankruptcy-alternatives.html\">bankruptcy alternatives<\/a> with you which include <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_credit_counselling.html\">credit counselling<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_debt-consolidation.html\">debt consolidation<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_consumer-proposal.html\">consumer proposals<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If we get to see you early enough, at the first sign of trouble, you can use and carry out one of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/bankruptcy_services-personal_bankruptcy-alternatives.html\">bankruptcy alternatives<\/a>, to free you from the burden of your financial challenges to go on to be a productive, contributing member of society and not be plagued by debt problems.<\/p>\n<p>Bankruptcy law is very complicated and requires the expertise of a professional licensed insolvency trustee. <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/index.html\">Ira Smith Trustee &amp; Receiver Inc.<\/a> is here to help. With a cumulative 50+ years of experience dealing with diverse issues and complex files, we can get you back on your feet <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irasmithinc.com\/index.html\">Starting Over, Starting Now<\/a>. We can help. <a href=\"http:\/\/irasmithinc.com\/contact_us.html\">Call<\/a> us today.<\/p>\n<h3 id='people-consider-us-bankruptcy-experts-because-we-wrote-the-ebook-which-is-sold-on-amazon-ca-explaining-the-canadian-personal-insolvency-and-bankruptcy-system-specifically-directed-to-the-person-stressed-out-with-too-much-debt'  id=\"boomdevs_9\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>People consider us bankruptcy experts because we wrote the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Personal-Bankruptcy-Canada-Because-Dummy-ebook\/dp\/B01CN8KI62\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1460206743&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=personal+bankruptcy+canada\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">eBook<\/a> which is sold on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Personal-Bankruptcy-Canada-Because-Dummy-ebook\/dp\/B01CN8KI62?ie=UTF8&amp;keywords=personal%20bankruptcy%20canada&amp;qid=1460206743&amp;ref_=sr_1_1&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon.ca<\/a>, explaining the Canadian personal insolvency and bankruptcy system, specifically directed to the person stressed out with too much debt.<\/h3>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"max-width: 100%;\" src=\"https:\/\/read.amazon.com\/kp\/card?asin=B01CN8KI62&amp;preview=inline&amp;linkCode=kpe&amp;ref_=cm_sw_r_kb_dp_c-pcxb0TPE6PG\" width=\"336\" height=\"550\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting American case about student loans debt Student loans debt is nearly impossible to get rid of in bankruptcy. 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